
hebron
06-15 06:58 PM
Hi, I have a question about PERM labor process. How soon can an employer apply PERM labor certification after hiring an employee?
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vgayalu
07-19 12:21 PM
My two friends are leaving.
They are completing six years. Their labour is approved. but I 140 is not approved.
They applied for their labour in sixth year.
Due to retrogression they are unable to apply for I 485 and EAD. They are working as DB2 DBA's.
They choose last option to leave the USA.
They are completing six years. Their labour is approved. but I 140 is not approved.
They applied for their labour in sixth year.
Due to retrogression they are unable to apply for I 485 and EAD. They are working as DB2 DBA's.
They choose last option to leave the USA.
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tamoul
10-19 01:06 PM
Chanced upon this forum while searching for something this week. Kudos to you all, your drive is amazing!
Count me in. Will be there tomorrow at 10AM.
Count me in. Will be there tomorrow at 10AM.
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vjkypally
11-15 08:13 PM
I wasn't trying to undermine the role iv had in the flower campaign. All I was trying to suggest is that initially some opposition did exist and once it gathered momentum on its own iv supported it whole heartedly which led to it's success. I was only comparing it to the "we fast while you feast" idea. I m the one who proposed it and will gladly shove it in the dustbin if there is some solution to our common suffering.Lets not undermine IV's efforts in promoting the flower campaign. IV may not have started it, but the publicity on IV went a long way in making the campaign a big success.
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walking_dude
09-04 04:32 PM
TOP 5 Excuses
1) Participating in the rally may jeopardize my position
Completely baseless. Rally is being organized after due permission from authorities. Further more IV designated volunteers will be there to ensure it's conducted smoothly. We will not be doing anything that provokes Americans like carrying our National Flags or incendiary slogans and dishonoring of American flags as seen during the rallies of 'undocumented aliens'. We will only be carrying IV approved banners which will not contain anything offensive.
Freedom of Speech/Expression and right to petition are constitutionally guaranteed rights, even to non-citizens. No one can use that against you. No one deport you for participating in a peaceful rally. All of us are highly educated people who don't have a propensity to indulge in violence and/or property damage witnessed during other protests.
2) Rallies are bad. Bad things may happen at a Rally
Perception is a result of our experience with so-called 'Rallies' back home and some here that turn violent. The primary reason for such lawlessness being the nature of participants - uneducated and/or unemployed anti-social elements. Also the political nature of such rallies, conducted by the opposition to inconvenience the incumbent government.
IV rally will be peaceful, as the participants are highly educated, well-employed people with families. Also IV is conducting the rally to petition the government to change rules and not to bring down/change the government.
If you need a precedent, we have the Flower protests and SJ rally , both conducted peacefully in a professional manner. In fact a cop even expressed admiration for the way IV protesters conducted themselves, orderly and peacefully.
3) People who do rallies are good-for-nothings who don't have a better thing to do. I might become an object of ridicule if I participate in one and people find about it. People might think I'm crazy.
Far from truth. Everyone's gainfully employed people just like you. We aren't different from anyone else, except that we have decided to fight for our common cause based on the understanding that strength lies in unity and numbers.
People ridiculing others is as old human habit as Columbus himself. Many ridiculed Columbus when he set sail for India. If he had backtracked, there wouldn't be America and we wouldn't be here.
If fighting for what's right is crazy, yes, I'm crazy. If standing upto fight for my career and my family is crazy, yes, I'm crazy. However, only a little more than people who expect to recieve GC in 2 years, without anybody doing anything to change the situation.
4) There is no reason for the Rally. The situation will remedy itself. In the recent past people have received GC in 2-4 years and so shall I. ( Do-Nothings)
Harking back to good ol' science textbooks, let me remind you of Newton's First law of motion - 'Every body [ EB immigrants] will continue in a state of rest or uniform motion [ retrogression] unless acted upon by an external force [IV actions] to change it'. Newton understood it centuries ago. We need to understand it now.
Situation was different in the recent past as thousands were caught hopelessly in BECs. There was no FBI check. No I-140 backlogs. No 485 frontlogs and backlogs. There weren't 300,000 to 500,000 applications pending for AOS.
5) Rally will not succeed. Even if does succeed, my non-participation will not make a difference.
Numbers make all the difference, in a democracy. When a politician sees a crowd, the thing that runs foremost in his mind is 'Votes'. More the merrier (the reason why undocumented aliens being 12 million are treated on priority basis compared to less numerical EB migrants).
When a senator/congressman is faced with a thousand 'Future American Citizens' ( so called 'Americans in Waiting') - he has two choices antagonize by ignoring them or help them achieve their goals. Any sane politician will opt for the latter, when those thousand future votes could mean the difference between re-election vs. defeat.
That's why it's important to show up in good numbers. If we approach them individually, they may and for all purposes will ignore us. But if we show up in good numbers, we will make them rethink their position and encourage to take more pro-immigrant positions.
Though, it might seem one or two absentees don't make much of a difference, in real life it does. These ones and twos are the ones that add upto to great numbers. If we miss out on these ones and twos, we might never reach the numbers we intend to. So it's very important for every one of us to participate.
1) Participating in the rally may jeopardize my position
Completely baseless. Rally is being organized after due permission from authorities. Further more IV designated volunteers will be there to ensure it's conducted smoothly. We will not be doing anything that provokes Americans like carrying our National Flags or incendiary slogans and dishonoring of American flags as seen during the rallies of 'undocumented aliens'. We will only be carrying IV approved banners which will not contain anything offensive.
Freedom of Speech/Expression and right to petition are constitutionally guaranteed rights, even to non-citizens. No one can use that against you. No one deport you for participating in a peaceful rally. All of us are highly educated people who don't have a propensity to indulge in violence and/or property damage witnessed during other protests.
2) Rallies are bad. Bad things may happen at a Rally
Perception is a result of our experience with so-called 'Rallies' back home and some here that turn violent. The primary reason for such lawlessness being the nature of participants - uneducated and/or unemployed anti-social elements. Also the political nature of such rallies, conducted by the opposition to inconvenience the incumbent government.
IV rally will be peaceful, as the participants are highly educated, well-employed people with families. Also IV is conducting the rally to petition the government to change rules and not to bring down/change the government.
If you need a precedent, we have the Flower protests and SJ rally , both conducted peacefully in a professional manner. In fact a cop even expressed admiration for the way IV protesters conducted themselves, orderly and peacefully.
3) People who do rallies are good-for-nothings who don't have a better thing to do. I might become an object of ridicule if I participate in one and people find about it. People might think I'm crazy.
Far from truth. Everyone's gainfully employed people just like you. We aren't different from anyone else, except that we have decided to fight for our common cause based on the understanding that strength lies in unity and numbers.
People ridiculing others is as old human habit as Columbus himself. Many ridiculed Columbus when he set sail for India. If he had backtracked, there wouldn't be America and we wouldn't be here.
If fighting for what's right is crazy, yes, I'm crazy. If standing upto fight for my career and my family is crazy, yes, I'm crazy. However, only a little more than people who expect to recieve GC in 2 years, without anybody doing anything to change the situation.
4) There is no reason for the Rally. The situation will remedy itself. In the recent past people have received GC in 2-4 years and so shall I. ( Do-Nothings)
Harking back to good ol' science textbooks, let me remind you of Newton's First law of motion - 'Every body [ EB immigrants] will continue in a state of rest or uniform motion [ retrogression] unless acted upon by an external force [IV actions] to change it'. Newton understood it centuries ago. We need to understand it now.
Situation was different in the recent past as thousands were caught hopelessly in BECs. There was no FBI check. No I-140 backlogs. No 485 frontlogs and backlogs. There weren't 300,000 to 500,000 applications pending for AOS.
5) Rally will not succeed. Even if does succeed, my non-participation will not make a difference.
Numbers make all the difference, in a democracy. When a politician sees a crowd, the thing that runs foremost in his mind is 'Votes'. More the merrier (the reason why undocumented aliens being 12 million are treated on priority basis compared to less numerical EB migrants).
When a senator/congressman is faced with a thousand 'Future American Citizens' ( so called 'Americans in Waiting') - he has two choices antagonize by ignoring them or help them achieve their goals. Any sane politician will opt for the latter, when those thousand future votes could mean the difference between re-election vs. defeat.
That's why it's important to show up in good numbers. If we approach them individually, they may and for all purposes will ignore us. But if we show up in good numbers, we will make them rethink their position and encourage to take more pro-immigrant positions.
Though, it might seem one or two absentees don't make much of a difference, in real life it does. These ones and twos are the ones that add upto to great numbers. If we miss out on these ones and twos, we might never reach the numbers we intend to. So it's very important for every one of us to participate.
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REQUIRE_GC
07-15 12:03 PM
My last and final update to this post. I got my original Green Card (Cards not green color) It was the happiest day, the wait was finally over the air smelled a little better.
My two cents - Have patience explore other means of getting green card if one doesn't work. An attorney once told me there are soo many ways and regulationsto get green card that half of them are not even in law manuals only the old timers know about them. Enjoy life life with green card and with out it is the same.but the time you spend never comes back. If you have problems with your employer just imagine if you didn't have a job. So make the best of your time and enjoy this great land which we call america.
Thanks
Congrats!!!!!!!!!!!!! man
My two cents - Have patience explore other means of getting green card if one doesn't work. An attorney once told me there are soo many ways and regulationsto get green card that half of them are not even in law manuals only the old timers know about them. Enjoy life life with green card and with out it is the same.but the time you spend never comes back. If you have problems with your employer just imagine if you didn't have a job. So make the best of your time and enjoy this great land which we call america.
Thanks
Congrats!!!!!!!!!!!!! man
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venkygct
06-10 02:16 PM
Visa Bulletin for July 2010 (http://travel.state.gov/visa/bulletin/bulletin_5019.html)
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BharatPremi
12-10 12:38 PM
Why can't we move from a free service to a membership based and see how many people still continue ... evenif with 25K members it is only a handful who are active and part of the initiative ... so I would suggest to go for a membership ...
it could be a per month basis or pay a big amount and get membership for life or year ... say $200 for a year or $20 for a month ... we don't need the number/mass unless they are active in all way ... just my thoughts ... hope the IV core team will consider that ... enough of free rides ... now pay for it and get the access to forums ... :mad:
On the ground of ethics and moral, I would not like to see that day but passive ones will be active to make that happen one day.
it could be a per month basis or pay a big amount and get membership for life or year ... say $200 for a year or $20 for a month ... we don't need the number/mass unless they are active in all way ... just my thoughts ... hope the IV core team will consider that ... enough of free rides ... now pay for it and get the access to forums ... :mad:
On the ground of ethics and moral, I would not like to see that day but passive ones will be active to make that happen one day.
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ram04
09-24 11:13 PM
yes I 140 has been approved in Feb o7.
Let me wait for actual denial letter.
It seems that is the best option at this point for me.
- Thanks
Let me wait for actual denial letter.
It seems that is the best option at this point for me.
- Thanks
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senthil1
06-09 07:21 PM
I can tell your case. If you apply now by EB you will get gc within 3 to 7 years time. If you apply by point system after 5 years of USA experience and you will have employer sponsor you will have 16 points more than those who are coming fresh to USA. So both point system and EB system you will get at the same time period. Process delay will be minimal as no labor or I140. But initial period there will be delays as it is entirely new and untested. We cannot compare EB and point system now. Only point system comes we will know the problems
Right now, in the EB based system, the employer picks the applicant, not the Federal Government. Also, under the current system, even if the country is limited by quota, it is a soft quota. No matter how you see it, the current system attracts the best and brightest and rewards only only those who are physically in this country with the GC (EB based). how can that be compared to the merit based system which you claim would attract the 80%? Any tom/dick or harry can apply from any country and get thru.
What do you mean by "process delay being eliminated"? It would take years for USCIS to come up with an easy set of rules. Again, the per country quota would kick in. It would take eternity to get a GC under the merit system. I dont see any "merit" in that.
Right now, in the EB based system, the employer picks the applicant, not the Federal Government. Also, under the current system, even if the country is limited by quota, it is a soft quota. No matter how you see it, the current system attracts the best and brightest and rewards only only those who are physically in this country with the GC (EB based). how can that be compared to the merit based system which you claim would attract the 80%? Any tom/dick or harry can apply from any country and get thru.
What do you mean by "process delay being eliminated"? It would take years for USCIS to come up with an easy set of rules. Again, the per country quota would kick in. It would take eternity to get a GC under the merit system. I dont see any "merit" in that.
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walking_dude
10-08 04:35 PM
I posted a public event on 'Detroit India' listing for IV MI meet. Event posting has been approved and I've updated the listing to reflect current venue, timings, address etc.
http://www.detroitindia.com/detroitindia/events/events.asp
It's linked to in their home page - http://www.detroitindia.com/Default.asp
On the other hand MI India has deleted the announcement on their website :mad:
http://www.detroitindia.com/detroitindia/events/events.asp
It's linked to in their home page - http://www.detroitindia.com/Default.asp
On the other hand MI India has deleted the announcement on their website :mad:
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raju123
02-13 11:59 AM
It looks very funny after reading anands23's post. IV leaders are volunteers. They are not highly paid CEO and directors of IV Inc. !!
Come on Mr. anand come and join IV leadership and change the immigration law. For God sack, don't post this kind of immature posts.
I think this guy is from numbers usa for sure. After writing all the BS, he asks it to take it in constructive way. There are lots of other way to express your concern if it had to taken in constructive way. This is definitely not the way.
Based on your comments I could see that you are a regular visitor (FREE RIDER ATTITUDE) to IV site for more than a year. We had several threads crying out for funds in very critical time senstive times. At those times you are a mere spectator and now just for posting this bashing post you reluctantly became a anonymous member. All these shows your LEADERSHIP skills and quality of leading the battle from FRONT. If I were in USCIS I would do a background check on these high qualities and ground breaking positive attitudes even before giving H1.
Come on Mr. anand come and join IV leadership and change the immigration law. For God sack, don't post this kind of immature posts.
I think this guy is from numbers usa for sure. After writing all the BS, he asks it to take it in constructive way. There are lots of other way to express your concern if it had to taken in constructive way. This is definitely not the way.
Based on your comments I could see that you are a regular visitor (FREE RIDER ATTITUDE) to IV site for more than a year. We had several threads crying out for funds in very critical time senstive times. At those times you are a mere spectator and now just for posting this bashing post you reluctantly became a anonymous member. All these shows your LEADERSHIP skills and quality of leading the battle from FRONT. If I were in USCIS I would do a background check on these high qualities and ground breaking positive attitudes even before giving H1.
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tomprc
07-09 03:34 PM
there are reports that some people get their july applications returned already. see here:
http://murthyforum.atinfopop.com/4/OpenTopic?a=tpc&s=1024039761&f=7474050822&m=5631015251
http://murthyforum.atinfopop.com/4/OpenTopic?a=tpc&s=1024039761&f=7474050822&m=5631015251
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spicy_guy
06-01 09:45 AM
How many members, especially GC bitten members, does IV
Even if 90% of the members donate on an average $75, would that reach the goal?
I am trying to analyze. We need to bump up the funding to ace this opportunity.
Thanks much for all who donated $$$, skypmiles, carpool, etc for this cause.
Even if 90% of the members donate on an average $75, would that reach the goal?
I am trying to analyze. We need to bump up the funding to ace this opportunity.
Thanks much for all who donated $$$, skypmiles, carpool, etc for this cause.
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ramus
06-13 08:24 PM
We have more then 1000 members online..
Should we start our fund drive..
Just kidding but won't hurt to do it though as everybody is so happy..
for your contribution:)
Should we start our fund drive..
Just kidding but won't hurt to do it though as everybody is so happy..
for your contribution:)
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muni_k
05-31 05:53 PM
Receipt ID: 3347-9248-3773-8217
contributed $ 50
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reedandbamboo
06-24 12:12 PM
I just called .. as folks have been reporting, the aide knew what I was calling about and read the bill numbers to me. And then she encouraged me to call my representative as well.
Thanks IV!
Thanks IV!
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needhelp!
04-29 12:28 PM
We have people waiting to give us a head start at 10K..
m306m: $50 for every 10K
espoir: $50 for every 10K
santb1975: $100 when we reach $37K
gconmymind: $50 when we reach 10K
axp817:$50 at 10K, 13K & 20K
So lets make it to our FIRST 10K by EOD.
m306m: $50 for every 10K
espoir: $50 for every 10K
santb1975: $100 when we reach $37K
gconmymind: $50 when we reach 10K
axp817:$50 at 10K, 13K & 20K
So lets make it to our FIRST 10K by EOD.
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desi3933
02-02 12:32 PM
Another Example:
Let us say, Employer XYZ has 3 employees on H-1B. Its upto Employer's choice to file green card for any or all of them. Employer may decide to sponsor employment based green card for only 1 of them.
If employer decides to sponsor green card for only 1 of the H-1B worker, can other 2 H-1B workers claim right to get sponsored based on Equal Opportunity Law? The answer is No, since it is perfectly ok and does not come under employment based discremination.
People here are mixing 2 different laws without knowing law's applicability limitations.
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Let us say, Employer XYZ has 3 employees on H-1B. Its upto Employer's choice to file green card for any or all of them. Employer may decide to sponsor employment based green card for only 1 of them.
If employer decides to sponsor green card for only 1 of the H-1B worker, can other 2 H-1B workers claim right to get sponsored based on Equal Opportunity Law? The answer is No, since it is perfectly ok and does not come under employment based discremination.
People here are mixing 2 different laws without knowing law's applicability limitations.
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walking_dude
10-09 09:44 AM
Nous pouvons le faire ensemble (we can do it together)
sledge_hammer
01-13 01:00 PM
Thanks "godspeed" and "coopheal"...greens to you!
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