eeezzz
03-20 03:34 PM
Mr. Gotcher posts this today.
Controversy over calculation of "fall across" visa numbers (http://immigration-information.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4610)
Long to short, Mr. Gotcher thinks the explanation of Apr. VB is an error.
I will just quote the last two paragraphs. If you are interested with this topic, you can follow the link to see detail.
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This is where the controversy arises. Do these provision require the Visa Office to let unused visa number from higher preference categories “fall down” into lower preference categories before being made available to single state quotas, or can they move unused numbers from a worldwide preference category over to single state quotas while there is still demand in the lower worldwide categories?
The Visa Office interpretation is that if there are unused numbers within a specific worldwide category, those numbers may be made available to single state quotas even if lower worldwide preference categories have visa cutoff dates because they are oversubscribed. I believe that this is an error.
Controversy over calculation of "fall across" visa numbers (http://immigration-information.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4610)
Long to short, Mr. Gotcher thinks the explanation of Apr. VB is an error.
I will just quote the last two paragraphs. If you are interested with this topic, you can follow the link to see detail.
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This is where the controversy arises. Do these provision require the Visa Office to let unused visa number from higher preference categories “fall down” into lower preference categories before being made available to single state quotas, or can they move unused numbers from a worldwide preference category over to single state quotas while there is still demand in the lower worldwide categories?
The Visa Office interpretation is that if there are unused numbers within a specific worldwide category, those numbers may be made available to single state quotas even if lower worldwide preference categories have visa cutoff dates because they are oversubscribed. I believe that this is an error.
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claudia255
09-21 10:17 PM
IV Core has mentionned many times that we need to educate the public.
I believe one of the rally attendees was interviewd by NPR, and he was informed his story will be featured on NPR in the near future. NPR is listened to by people who are highly educated and rational. They will surely understand the plight of legal immigrants. While piece meal legislation is being introduced in Congress, we need to be as much visible as posible.
Outside of the immigrant community (mainly lawyers and legal immigrants), no one knows what legal immigrants are up against.
Dollars talk. If there is enough money for advertisements as many have suggested on this forum, people will start asking questions when they see or hear those ads. And when people ask questions, they will receive the information. Once they know about the hurdles we face, they might put some pressure on Congress to Act. Pressure put on Congress by US citizens will carry a lot of weight.
I believe one of the rally attendees was interviewd by NPR, and he was informed his story will be featured on NPR in the near future. NPR is listened to by people who are highly educated and rational. They will surely understand the plight of legal immigrants. While piece meal legislation is being introduced in Congress, we need to be as much visible as posible.
Outside of the immigrant community (mainly lawyers and legal immigrants), no one knows what legal immigrants are up against.
Dollars talk. If there is enough money for advertisements as many have suggested on this forum, people will start asking questions when they see or hear those ads. And when people ask questions, they will receive the information. Once they know about the hurdles we face, they might put some pressure on Congress to Act. Pressure put on Congress by US citizens will carry a lot of weight.
PlainSpeak
03-28 02:55 PM
Eb2 are there in Eb2 for a reason and Eb3 are there in Eb3 for a reason.
Well Well Well ................
getgreensoon1 with you being a junior memeber how on the earth were you able to get a quote of my post if all my post have been stopped and nothing i post gets on any page.
Now that sounds fishy and it looks like you are an admin or a donor who has access to the web page and are hiding under a junior member name named getgreensoon1. this confirms what i am thinking that all that psotive money posts were all fakes and created by a few members like you to dupe the public into thinking you have such a big support. Of course this does help in the geneuine members donating to the cause anmd it works well for you
Anyway thanks for reposting my posts. You are helping me get my message across even them i have been blocked.
Now if you are a person who has cojons which work and are not for show and if you have guts (which i highly doubt) and of course cojons (which you might have but i think are not being used)
YOU WILL REPOST THIS MESSAGE AS IS WITHOUT ANY CHANGES
Remember if you make any edits then it reflects on your birth.:D
Well Well Well ................
getgreensoon1 with you being a junior memeber how on the earth were you able to get a quote of my post if all my post have been stopped and nothing i post gets on any page.
Now that sounds fishy and it looks like you are an admin or a donor who has access to the web page and are hiding under a junior member name named getgreensoon1. this confirms what i am thinking that all that psotive money posts were all fakes and created by a few members like you to dupe the public into thinking you have such a big support. Of course this does help in the geneuine members donating to the cause anmd it works well for you
Anyway thanks for reposting my posts. You are helping me get my message across even them i have been blocked.
Now if you are a person who has cojons which work and are not for show and if you have guts (which i highly doubt) and of course cojons (which you might have but i think are not being used)
YOU WILL REPOST THIS MESSAGE AS IS WITHOUT ANY CHANGES
Remember if you make any edits then it reflects on your birth.:D
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EndlessWait
07-17 09:43 AM
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06-25 11:33 AM
Check your state chapter boards for an urgent action item
gccovet
06-24 10:16 AM
Called today, talked with Liz. She knew about the whole deal, and mentioned they have recieved many calls.
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vdlrao
07-15 05:36 PM
Not sure I follow you. How are we getting 50K spill over visas?
I already mentioned in my previous posts (multiple posts with same matter for people like you and me, see it and understand it well) how we are getting more than 50k visas just for EB2 India. I am giving it here again the visa allotments for 2006 and 2007 years when theres vertical fallouts. Now its changed to horizontal fall outs.
Due to this as many of us think its not the EB3 India which is losing, but its EB3 ROW.
Class --------------------------------------> 2006 | 2007
Total Employment-based Approvals ----------> 159,081 | 162,176
EB1 ---------------------------------------> 36,960 | 26,697
EB2 ---------------------------------------> 21,911 | 44,162
EB3 ---------------------------------------> 89,922 | 85,030
Fourth:-------------------------------------> 9,539 | 5,481
Fifth (investors) ----------------------------> 749 | 806
See the Total Employment Based Visa approvals for 2006 and 2007 159,081 and 162,176. But there are only 140,000 visas in EB category. The rest of the visas came from Family Based visas which are not used for the previous fiscal year. The share for each category: Each EB1, EB2 and EB3 should get 1/3 of 140,000 = 46,666. But due to the less demand in EB1 and EB2 ROW all the visas falling to EB3 ROW due to the Vertical falling.
EB1 ROW --> EB2 ROW --> EB3 ROW.
EB1 INDIA --> EB2 INDIA --> EB3 INDIA.
As theres not much demand for EB1 ROW and EB2 ROW, all the unused visas are going to fall to EB3 ROW. So from this time its going to be like Horizotal fall out like below.
EB1 ROW/EB1 INDIA --> EB2 ROW/ EB2India/ EB2China-->EB3ROW/EB3 INDIA.
So this time to fall any VISAS into EB3 ROW they have to pass through EB2 India/EB2 China. So this makes EB3 ROW dates would retrogress due to the decrease in visa numbers availabilty.
As I said each category would have 46,666. So EB1 and EB2 together will have around 93,332 visas. But in EB1+EB2 in 2006 about 50,000 visas approved and in 2007 about 70,000 visas approved. So for 2008 also asume the demand for EB1 and EB2 is 70,000. But the availability of VISAS are 93,332 as said above + unused family visas which come around 19,000+.
So for this 2008 fiscal year for EB2 India and China the total visa numbers availlable are
(93,332 +19,000) - 70,000 = 42,332.
So around 42 thousand + 9,800 (regular 7% of 140k) = around 52k Visas Just for India , because EB2 China was already Jan 2006 a year back. And I dont think it would take any considerable share in this 50k other than its regular 9,800 visas.
Get me back if you have any doubts.
I already mentioned in my previous posts (multiple posts with same matter for people like you and me, see it and understand it well) how we are getting more than 50k visas just for EB2 India. I am giving it here again the visa allotments for 2006 and 2007 years when theres vertical fallouts. Now its changed to horizontal fall outs.
Due to this as many of us think its not the EB3 India which is losing, but its EB3 ROW.
Class --------------------------------------> 2006 | 2007
Total Employment-based Approvals ----------> 159,081 | 162,176
EB1 ---------------------------------------> 36,960 | 26,697
EB2 ---------------------------------------> 21,911 | 44,162
EB3 ---------------------------------------> 89,922 | 85,030
Fourth:-------------------------------------> 9,539 | 5,481
Fifth (investors) ----------------------------> 749 | 806
See the Total Employment Based Visa approvals for 2006 and 2007 159,081 and 162,176. But there are only 140,000 visas in EB category. The rest of the visas came from Family Based visas which are not used for the previous fiscal year. The share for each category: Each EB1, EB2 and EB3 should get 1/3 of 140,000 = 46,666. But due to the less demand in EB1 and EB2 ROW all the visas falling to EB3 ROW due to the Vertical falling.
EB1 ROW --> EB2 ROW --> EB3 ROW.
EB1 INDIA --> EB2 INDIA --> EB3 INDIA.
As theres not much demand for EB1 ROW and EB2 ROW, all the unused visas are going to fall to EB3 ROW. So from this time its going to be like Horizotal fall out like below.
EB1 ROW/EB1 INDIA --> EB2 ROW/ EB2India/ EB2China-->EB3ROW/EB3 INDIA.
So this time to fall any VISAS into EB3 ROW they have to pass through EB2 India/EB2 China. So this makes EB3 ROW dates would retrogress due to the decrease in visa numbers availabilty.
As I said each category would have 46,666. So EB1 and EB2 together will have around 93,332 visas. But in EB1+EB2 in 2006 about 50,000 visas approved and in 2007 about 70,000 visas approved. So for 2008 also asume the demand for EB1 and EB2 is 70,000. But the availability of VISAS are 93,332 as said above + unused family visas which come around 19,000+.
So for this 2008 fiscal year for EB2 India and China the total visa numbers availlable are
(93,332 +19,000) - 70,000 = 42,332.
So around 42 thousand + 9,800 (regular 7% of 140k) = around 52k Visas Just for India , because EB2 China was already Jan 2006 a year back. And I dont think it would take any considerable share in this 50k other than its regular 9,800 visas.
Get me back if you have any doubts.
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waiting4gc
07-17 07:45 PM
If you think there's only dimiwitted folks here, need I remind you that you are posting here too.
Anyways, mistakes are made and can be corrected. Name calling doesn't achieve anything.
Shows you the general herd mentality on this forum. As long as everyone is thinking the same way, everything is great. If you differ, everyone will call for a ban on you. They are all lemmings. Unfortunately, I had to come to this forum for news. I have never seen such a bunch of dimwitted people in one place...
Anyways, mistakes are made and can be corrected. Name calling doesn't achieve anything.
Shows you the general herd mentality on this forum. As long as everyone is thinking the same way, everything is great. If you differ, everyone will call for a ban on you. They are all lemmings. Unfortunately, I had to come to this forum for news. I have never seen such a bunch of dimwitted people in one place...
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Macaca
09-20 12:26 PM
Educate them , that more imp.. this has to be worked on!
The argumnet changes to: you should stop wasting your time!
The argumnet changes to: you should stop wasting your time!
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Lasantha
07-09 04:33 PM
Can you send multiple applications in the same package.
Coz. my attorney gave me a tracking number and there are almost 4 names in the reference section of the Fedex Online Tracking System.
Same here. There were three other names for my tracking number. I guess that's OK.
Coz. my attorney gave me a tracking number and there are almost 4 names in the reference section of the Fedex Online Tracking System.
Same here. There were three other names for my tracking number. I guess that's OK.
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aspiration
04-26 03:31 PM
Its kind of confusing to make a one time donation.. and there should be two more options of $25 and $50 for one time contribution....
Can anyone tell me how to contribute one time and for the amount not mentioned on first page..
I think we should follow Hillary and Obama's grassroot campaign, whereby asking for smaller amount and that way make people more willing to contribute in smaller amounts...
Can anyone tell me how to contribute one time and for the amount not mentioned on first page..
I think we should follow Hillary and Obama's grassroot campaign, whereby asking for smaller amount and that way make people more willing to contribute in smaller amounts...
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yabayaba
05-21 04:25 PM
GO IV... Here is my contribution of $100
Receipt ID: 1988-5912-3522-0953
Receipt ID: 1988-5912-3522-0953
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Jaime
09-04 02:31 PM
Very good. If I can go, I am sure you can go too. If I can afford to buy some plane tickets, you can too. If I can take a day off, you can do it too. This little time and money is nothing compared to your next few visits to your attorney's office when is time to renew that I am sure you're tired of doing.
I want to do it for my family, you do it for your family and then educate somebody else so they can go too. Next thing you know, we'll be a lot and we'll be heard.
If you don't go to D.C. you'll feel bad when you see that we succeeded and you did nothing about it!!!! just taking a "free ride" All of us are enjoying the results from the flower campaign and the S.J. rally. So we know we can do it again.
When you get your GC faster than expected, you'll feel so guilty.
We'll be there, I want to be proud that I did my part!!!!!
Thank you guys!!!
Thanks man! Great attitude!
Think about it, everyone can make it! We have already prevailed against so many odds! (The first of which was to get a job in the U.S. with so much worldwide competition for our positions). If people really want something they will do it! The key is to convince yourself that you want to go to the rally because you think it will be useful to you! (Trust me, it will, but you need to convince yourself! At least TRY!!!!) We can do this!!!
I want to do it for my family, you do it for your family and then educate somebody else so they can go too. Next thing you know, we'll be a lot and we'll be heard.
If you don't go to D.C. you'll feel bad when you see that we succeeded and you did nothing about it!!!! just taking a "free ride" All of us are enjoying the results from the flower campaign and the S.J. rally. So we know we can do it again.
When you get your GC faster than expected, you'll feel so guilty.
We'll be there, I want to be proud that I did my part!!!!!
Thank you guys!!!
Thanks man! Great attitude!
Think about it, everyone can make it! We have already prevailed against so many odds! (The first of which was to get a job in the U.S. with so much worldwide competition for our positions). If people really want something they will do it! The key is to convince yourself that you want to go to the rally because you think it will be useful to you! (Trust me, it will, but you need to convince yourself! At least TRY!!!!) We can do this!!!
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sanju
03-05 03:58 PM
Ya, I am thinking of starting an outsourcing company which could take this stupid easy work from USCIS and outsource all that work to Thailand. Then I will sponsor work visa for all these bumps at USCIS to work in the outsourced site. Soon you will see me in the court of loo doggs answering his question "how in the world did you outsource all these 'american' jobs"? And my answer would be 'because these guys were all genius and were expert at eastimating the cost of running a query. So we hired bunch of them to represent the company with USCIS."
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I think I know how this works. They would outsource this program to some govt contractor (or ask the govt contractor who is working on their data ) to produce that report which costs (<10$ worth of time/effort, if they have all the data).
If all they want is money ..so be it. I am ready to pony up $50 for this,if we all approach together. But as someone suggested country of chargability is a must.
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I think I know how this works. They would outsource this program to some govt contractor (or ask the govt contractor who is working on their data ) to produce that report which costs (<10$ worth of time/effort, if they have all the data).
If all they want is money ..so be it. I am ready to pony up $50 for this,if we all approach together. But as someone suggested country of chargability is a must.
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gc28262
12-10 03:28 PM
Friends,
I was one among the people not attented the Plano meeting.I had to attend a very important family meet on that day. But, I didn't inform Niloufer about this.I am Sorry,Niloufer.
I also spread the message of Plano meeting by pasting flyers in Irving India stores. I was ready to attend alongwith my family. But, for the last minute unavoidable family meet. I became helpless.
Today,I convinced my friend EJSR to contribute $100 towards Omnibus fund drive.
I am sorry.
Keep going IV
This is something a texas IV aspiring member has to go through. I am sure Amma was the participant of one of the successful lawmaker meetings. There is something wrong here when IV is so harsh on a contributing member like Amma.
I was one among the people not attented the Plano meeting.I had to attend a very important family meet on that day. But, I didn't inform Niloufer about this.I am Sorry,Niloufer.
I also spread the message of Plano meeting by pasting flyers in Irving India stores. I was ready to attend alongwith my family. But, for the last minute unavoidable family meet. I became helpless.
Today,I convinced my friend EJSR to contribute $100 towards Omnibus fund drive.
I am sorry.
Keep going IV
This is something a texas IV aspiring member has to go through. I am sure Amma was the participant of one of the successful lawmaker meetings. There is something wrong here when IV is so harsh on a contributing member like Amma.
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chantu
06-28 08:18 PM
Your status will be shown buy copy of I485 receipt. AP requires the following:
AP renewal e-filing (to be Mailed):
.... Confirmation Page
.... Two pictures with A# on back, put in envelope and staple to confirmation page
.... Copy of I485 Receipt Notice
.... Copy of previous AP
.... Photo Id such as
........ Copy of Biographic Pages of Passport or
........ Copy of DL or
........ Copy of EAD
.... Letter - http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=257924&postcount=20
Dhundhun, Thank you very much for your help!
AP renewal e-filing (to be Mailed):
.... Confirmation Page
.... Two pictures with A# on back, put in envelope and staple to confirmation page
.... Copy of I485 Receipt Notice
.... Copy of previous AP
.... Photo Id such as
........ Copy of Biographic Pages of Passport or
........ Copy of DL or
........ Copy of EAD
.... Letter - http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=257924&postcount=20
Dhundhun, Thank you very much for your help!
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CaliGC
06-14 01:24 PM
Friends,
Ofcourse everyone is very excited that the priority dates are current but let's take a careful look for why it became current all of a sudden even when the demand for visa numbers is so high and was backlogged by 5 years up until couple of months ago.
1. I sincerely feel this is just to keep the legal immigrants to stop protesting for benefits in the CIR. Well, the CIR is supposed to be dead right? Wrong, count 2 weeks from now and the Bill will be back with tons of benefits for Illegal aliens and none for legals.
2. Currently Service centers are processing cases received in Aug-Sept. '06 with the few thousands of applications being submitted for the next few weeks the processing dates will be moved back by couple of years. All this time we were waiting for the priority dates and now will wait for the processing dates to be advanced. What a circus!!!
3. Just when the case is ready for processing that would be atleast couple of years from now, the priority dates will be retrogressed may be by 10 years this time.
To my knoweledge we should still continue to lobby the senators and get the Visa numbers increased, get the country quota eliminated, Only one visa should be counted per family... and get it into the CIR. Should the CIR pass without these ammendments legal immigrants will be stuck in limbo for every because there will be no more CIRs in the near future.
TIA
CaliGC
Ofcourse everyone is very excited that the priority dates are current but let's take a careful look for why it became current all of a sudden even when the demand for visa numbers is so high and was backlogged by 5 years up until couple of months ago.
1. I sincerely feel this is just to keep the legal immigrants to stop protesting for benefits in the CIR. Well, the CIR is supposed to be dead right? Wrong, count 2 weeks from now and the Bill will be back with tons of benefits for Illegal aliens and none for legals.
2. Currently Service centers are processing cases received in Aug-Sept. '06 with the few thousands of applications being submitted for the next few weeks the processing dates will be moved back by couple of years. All this time we were waiting for the priority dates and now will wait for the processing dates to be advanced. What a circus!!!
3. Just when the case is ready for processing that would be atleast couple of years from now, the priority dates will be retrogressed may be by 10 years this time.
To my knoweledge we should still continue to lobby the senators and get the Visa numbers increased, get the country quota eliminated, Only one visa should be counted per family... and get it into the CIR. Should the CIR pass without these ammendments legal immigrants will be stuck in limbo for every because there will be no more CIRs in the near future.
TIA
CaliGC
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pmmo
10-27 07:08 PM
I tend to agree with all the view points expressed here. I don't think we are supposed to know every immigration details (and, I guess, that is what the immigration lawyers are for), but USCIS always will reserve the right to do anything anytime. So, I think, it is better to be educated and over cautious on such matters. It is totally USCIS' fault to issue a wrong approval (if that indeed is what happened in my case-we will find out) and I hope they make amends for it by giving me an expedited EAD and AP so I can rest peacefully (and wait, I don't know, may be another 7 years to get a "real" approval).
TravInd, please let me know the attorney you used in your case, if you don't mind sharing that information. I feel like my attorney is not very responsive.
TravInd, please let me know the attorney you used in your case, if you don't mind sharing that information. I feel like my attorney is not very responsive.
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needhelp!
03-05 09:32 AM
I find it weird that they cannot find the info by country of chargeability. That should have been entered when they receipted the AOS applications, right?
nfinity
09-21 06:44 PM
Here is a message from Ajoba regarding the San Jose rally....
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I must say that this is a great great effort. Both, the flower campaign and the rally. Nothing like this has been done before by wanna-be immigrants. We are hardworking, law abiding, well educated people. But until now, the general opinion was that we are at the mercy of the American immigration system. I was especially so frustrated when some of my friends thought that there was nothing wrong in what the USCIS did. Their response was simply "what can we do? let's just re-apply when the dates become current again". Historically, Indians (at least, from my experience) have been hesitant to protest against the wrongdoings of their rulers. This is seen even today, when we fear to raise our voice when our bosses or managers at work exploit us, or our advisers/professors exploit us, or if the USCIS changes rules in the middle of the game. In India too, the general opinion is "Nothing is going to change, let's not get into trouble". This rally has shown that things are changing. We all should wake up, and fight for our rights! I could not attend the rally as I am based in Michigan, but I thank all of you who protested for me and my family. I will do my best to support this effort in whatever way I can.
Hi Guyz,
First off, kudos to all the friends who attended the rally. I really appreciate the efforts and thank all of them.
I just thought of starting this thread for people who did not attend. Please explain in one or two sentences why you did not attend. Whether it was a personal reason, whether u were scared, didn't care, forgot, didn't know! etc.
My reason:
I really wanted a green card, but because India is growing so fast, I really don't think I want it so badly anymore. So, I did not have the motivation to go ...
I am honestly curious. What changed in two months? You were desperate then, and you are not now?
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I must say that this is a great great effort. Both, the flower campaign and the rally. Nothing like this has been done before by wanna-be immigrants. We are hardworking, law abiding, well educated people. But until now, the general opinion was that we are at the mercy of the American immigration system. I was especially so frustrated when some of my friends thought that there was nothing wrong in what the USCIS did. Their response was simply "what can we do? let's just re-apply when the dates become current again". Historically, Indians (at least, from my experience) have been hesitant to protest against the wrongdoings of their rulers. This is seen even today, when we fear to raise our voice when our bosses or managers at work exploit us, or our advisers/professors exploit us, or if the USCIS changes rules in the middle of the game. In India too, the general opinion is "Nothing is going to change, let's not get into trouble". This rally has shown that things are changing. We all should wake up, and fight for our rights! I could not attend the rally as I am based in Michigan, but I thank all of you who protested for me and my family. I will do my best to support this effort in whatever way I can.
Hi Guyz,
First off, kudos to all the friends who attended the rally. I really appreciate the efforts and thank all of them.
I just thought of starting this thread for people who did not attend. Please explain in one or two sentences why you did not attend. Whether it was a personal reason, whether u were scared, didn't care, forgot, didn't know! etc.
My reason:
I really wanted a green card, but because India is growing so fast, I really don't think I want it so badly anymore. So, I did not have the motivation to go ...
I am honestly curious. What changed in two months? You were desperate then, and you are not now?
njdude26
07-19 10:53 AM
ya in the end i may want to come back to US but you never know if we like it in Canada and my kid settles down there we may end up being there and forget about US :)
For now im surely taking atleast 10 jobs from here.Still your end in mind is US. Ok when I have a job in US and waiting in retrogression, what is the adavantage of having canadian PR and moving there unless otherwise you get a jump in career.
Just becos it is retrogressed and you have canadina PR, there is no advantage in moving to Canada.
For now im surely taking atleast 10 jobs from here.Still your end in mind is US. Ok when I have a job in US and waiting in retrogression, what is the adavantage of having canadian PR and moving there unless otherwise you get a jump in career.
Just becos it is retrogressed and you have canadina PR, there is no advantage in moving to Canada.
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