GCard_Dream
07-06 01:00 PM
I see that we all are very busy fighting amongst ourselves. Did all of you get a chance to "Digg" the story so it gets maximum publicity possible? This is the only story so far that carefully analyzes the 485 fiasco and longer it runs the better it will be for us.
Please take a min and digg it. You'll be doing yourself a favor.
Please take a min and digg it. You'll be doing yourself a favor.
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factoryman
06-21 01:22 PM
go through all the posts at linked at my post 'Link to post at IV''But what is these guys doing?' (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=86268&postcount=5)
The linked place is a safe and cozy haven for most Democratic Senators and Democratic Congressmen. All start threads in their real names over there.
This is like red meat for them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCbFEgFajGU
The linked place is a safe and cozy haven for most Democratic Senators and Democratic Congressmen. All start threads in their real names over there.
This is like red meat for them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCbFEgFajGU
485_se_dukhi
07-18 08:36 PM
I just came to know about this site on July 11.
Liked the idea about sending flowers and immediately send one basket of flowers to Mr Emilio for July 12 delivery along with a get well soon card.:) Also send letters to local congressmen etc.
After this amazingly delightful news yesterday, I gave $200 to IV..and as mentioned earlier have set up a $50/m recurring deposit just now.
For all those who have still not contributed...
What in the world are you waiting for??
Lightening to strike?? Permission from your local anti immigrant bunch??
Isn't this sufficient to let you know that IV core and other senior members of their team are ABSOLUTELY COMMITTED to our cause??
Do you want another VB fiasco to happen?? Are you going to wait till our 485's are stuck for 2-3 years and then again come to this forum for answers??
Please, please go ahead and contribute....
Liked the idea about sending flowers and immediately send one basket of flowers to Mr Emilio for July 12 delivery along with a get well soon card.:) Also send letters to local congressmen etc.
After this amazingly delightful news yesterday, I gave $200 to IV..and as mentioned earlier have set up a $50/m recurring deposit just now.
For all those who have still not contributed...
What in the world are you waiting for??
Lightening to strike?? Permission from your local anti immigrant bunch??
Isn't this sufficient to let you know that IV core and other senior members of their team are ABSOLUTELY COMMITTED to our cause??
Do you want another VB fiasco to happen?? Are you going to wait till our 485's are stuck for 2-3 years and then again come to this forum for answers??
Please, please go ahead and contribute....
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carbon
08-15 02:04 PM
America has always been a favorite destination for immigrants. In the past, labor jobs were abundant and there were enough immigrants to do those jobs. This mutual dependency contributed to the growth of the United States making it the fastest growing industrial nation in the world. Things have changed, labor immigrants have been replaced by high-tech and skilled immigrants, but two things have not changed. 1. America depends on immigrants to sustain growth and 2. Immigrants come to America to fulfill their dreams. This 300 year old interdependence is very important yet under appreciated by the lawmakers.
Skilled workers of foreign nationality are well educated, creative and ambitious individuals. They act as a �steroid� for the nation. They charge the nation with prosperity and growth. Generally countries depend on their younger generation and hope that they will become highly productive and good citizens contributing to the growth of their nation in future, however only few countries are blessed with the strong stream of immigrants with highly desirable qualities to make progress today, not tomorrow. It seems America is highly blessed in that regard. But unfortunately the lawmakers don�t seem to recognize how fortunate their country. Following facts support my observation:
1. World has entered information and biotech age. India and China has the biggest technological talent pool
waiting to settle down in USA, yet the immigration quota for these countries is locked to extremely small
and fixed number for decades due to half-century old laws. The laws does not take reality into account.
2. In the days of online stock trading, visa processing is still done at extremely slow pace.
3. The positive impact of immigrants has been taken for granted.
4. Immigration is considered a charity rather than an important factor in country�s growth. The attitude is not right.
If such ignorance continues in the United States following will happen:
1. Innovation will slowdown. It has already begun.
2. Technology companies will migrate to India and China.
3. Large scale outsourcing will occur for technological and knowledge based jobs.
4. Stock indexes will move south, as there won�t be many attractive places to invest money. High profits normally come from high growth companies and today�s high growth companies come from technology sector.
5. Tax revenues will decrease, which will affect all government activities including defense and public education.
6. The effects of illegal immigration will become severe as American�s will compete for low wage �blue collar� jobs as a result of outsourcing.
7. Severe retrogression in immigration will not allow skilled workers to settle down or adapt to ever changing skills market. It will hinder the growth of each skilled worker due to lack of long-term planning, long-term investments and developments. These people will not be able to plant the trees that can reap the fruits for generations to come.
8. The effect of not having skilled immigrants in the country will not be zero , but it will be negative and counter-productive as most skilled workers will go back to their home country and instead of contributing to the growth of America , they will compete.
9. National moral level continues to decrease as more American citizens are going into jails than good foreign nationals coming in!
All these effects will be slow in the beginning, but will be visible when it will cross the �tipping point�. A place from where there is no return.
The solution:
Remove the limit on immigration quota for technology professionals for 5 years to solve current retrogression crisis. There after update the quotas (increase or decrease) every year to keep delays constant at 1,2 and 3 years for EB1,EB2 and EB3 categories respectively.
In my view, 5 million well educated and talented legal immigrants are always better for the country than 5 million illegal immigrants. Its better to rely on technology to improve American life style than on illegal immigrants to do cheap labor.
Skilled workers of foreign nationality are well educated, creative and ambitious individuals. They act as a �steroid� for the nation. They charge the nation with prosperity and growth. Generally countries depend on their younger generation and hope that they will become highly productive and good citizens contributing to the growth of their nation in future, however only few countries are blessed with the strong stream of immigrants with highly desirable qualities to make progress today, not tomorrow. It seems America is highly blessed in that regard. But unfortunately the lawmakers don�t seem to recognize how fortunate their country. Following facts support my observation:
1. World has entered information and biotech age. India and China has the biggest technological talent pool
waiting to settle down in USA, yet the immigration quota for these countries is locked to extremely small
and fixed number for decades due to half-century old laws. The laws does not take reality into account.
2. In the days of online stock trading, visa processing is still done at extremely slow pace.
3. The positive impact of immigrants has been taken for granted.
4. Immigration is considered a charity rather than an important factor in country�s growth. The attitude is not right.
If such ignorance continues in the United States following will happen:
1. Innovation will slowdown. It has already begun.
2. Technology companies will migrate to India and China.
3. Large scale outsourcing will occur for technological and knowledge based jobs.
4. Stock indexes will move south, as there won�t be many attractive places to invest money. High profits normally come from high growth companies and today�s high growth companies come from technology sector.
5. Tax revenues will decrease, which will affect all government activities including defense and public education.
6. The effects of illegal immigration will become severe as American�s will compete for low wage �blue collar� jobs as a result of outsourcing.
7. Severe retrogression in immigration will not allow skilled workers to settle down or adapt to ever changing skills market. It will hinder the growth of each skilled worker due to lack of long-term planning, long-term investments and developments. These people will not be able to plant the trees that can reap the fruits for generations to come.
8. The effect of not having skilled immigrants in the country will not be zero , but it will be negative and counter-productive as most skilled workers will go back to their home country and instead of contributing to the growth of America , they will compete.
9. National moral level continues to decrease as more American citizens are going into jails than good foreign nationals coming in!
All these effects will be slow in the beginning, but will be visible when it will cross the �tipping point�. A place from where there is no return.
The solution:
Remove the limit on immigration quota for technology professionals for 5 years to solve current retrogression crisis. There after update the quotas (increase or decrease) every year to keep delays constant at 1,2 and 3 years for EB1,EB2 and EB3 categories respectively.
In my view, 5 million well educated and talented legal immigrants are always better for the country than 5 million illegal immigrants. Its better to rely on technology to improve American life style than on illegal immigrants to do cheap labor.
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legalVoice
06-03 12:06 PM
Canadian_Dream, I think your interpretation is wrong..
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40 (2) PENDING AND APPROVED PETITIONS AND APPLICATIONS.�Petitions
41 for an employment-based visa filed for classification under
42 section 203(b)(1), (2), or (3) of the Immigration and Nationality
43 Act (as such provisions existed prior to the enactment of this
44 section) that were filed prior to the date of the introduction of
265
1 the [Insert title of Act] and were pending or approved at the
2 time of the effective date of this section, shall be treated as if
3 such provision remained effective and an approved petition may
4 serve as the basis for issuance of an immigrant visa. Aliens with
5 applications for a labor certification pursuant to section
6 212(a)(5)(A) of the Immigration and Nationality Act shall
7 preserve the immigrant visa priority date accorded by the date
8 of filing of such labor certification application.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
I think what AILA, our core group and other attorneys are trying to say is that as long as you filed before May 15, 2007 you will be fine regardless of whether your petition is pending or approved. There is no dispute about this point. Any applications that were filed after May 15, 2007 will become null and void the day this bill is signed by the president to make it a law. The 'effective date' ( Oct 1, 2008 ) does not apply for applications filed after May 15, 2007. I will be glad if you can prove me wrong :)
Well this is very confusing.
What if a person files the I-140 after May 15th and his/her I-140 is approved. Later assume that I-485 date becomes current for that particular person (before Oct 2008), he/she files for the AOS/I-485 (before Oct 2008). While the I-485 petition is pending the date Oct 2008 comes what happens then? Will this nulify the filed I-140?
Thanks
------------------------------------------------------------------------
40 (2) PENDING AND APPROVED PETITIONS AND APPLICATIONS.�Petitions
41 for an employment-based visa filed for classification under
42 section 203(b)(1), (2), or (3) of the Immigration and Nationality
43 Act (as such provisions existed prior to the enactment of this
44 section) that were filed prior to the date of the introduction of
265
1 the [Insert title of Act] and were pending or approved at the
2 time of the effective date of this section, shall be treated as if
3 such provision remained effective and an approved petition may
4 serve as the basis for issuance of an immigrant visa. Aliens with
5 applications for a labor certification pursuant to section
6 212(a)(5)(A) of the Immigration and Nationality Act shall
7 preserve the immigrant visa priority date accorded by the date
8 of filing of such labor certification application.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
I think what AILA, our core group and other attorneys are trying to say is that as long as you filed before May 15, 2007 you will be fine regardless of whether your petition is pending or approved. There is no dispute about this point. Any applications that were filed after May 15, 2007 will become null and void the day this bill is signed by the president to make it a law. The 'effective date' ( Oct 1, 2008 ) does not apply for applications filed after May 15, 2007. I will be glad if you can prove me wrong :)
Well this is very confusing.
What if a person files the I-140 after May 15th and his/her I-140 is approved. Later assume that I-485 date becomes current for that particular person (before Oct 2008), he/she files for the AOS/I-485 (before Oct 2008). While the I-485 petition is pending the date Oct 2008 comes what happens then? Will this nulify the filed I-140?
Thanks
eb3_nepa
07-14 03:42 PM
Done!!
Done contributing or updating your signature :)?
Done contributing or updating your signature :)?
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susie
07-07 01:32 AM
Please, please update when you get any news.
I have a very dicey situation with my son, who is turning 21 in January 2008.
Good luck for the outcome!
Hi
Case filed end March 07 at Tampa mid district. They had 60days to respond , so by end May 07 should have heard
Just before end May 07 they asked for another 30days and as a professional curtesy my attorney agreed, so should have heard by end June 07
Just before end June the Attorney General's legal department called my attorney and asked yet again for another 30days !!! as my case paperwork with them was very thin (whatever that means) Their attorney stated on the phone they would like to resolve, again whatever that is supposed to mean
Apparently Geoff Gorsky has not replied to his own attorney ! so their attorney has asked for all and any evidence we have on CSPA case.
Today 6th July 07 I drove from Orlando to Tampa to hand deliver my case file, but my attorney has stated they will not be allowed more extra time as we will be at 120 days wait at end of July 07
The CSPA is badly written and needs leglislative fix, Myself and another member have written our own draft amendment for legislation to protect all children from aging out. This has beed passed to Dave Weldon's office and in turn passed to his legislators, so will see what happens
I will update you all as if I win my case could well assist many others if they are advised their child has aged out. If you wish to support our efforts please join www.expatsvoice.org
I have a very dicey situation with my son, who is turning 21 in January 2008.
Good luck for the outcome!
Hi
Case filed end March 07 at Tampa mid district. They had 60days to respond , so by end May 07 should have heard
Just before end May 07 they asked for another 30days and as a professional curtesy my attorney agreed, so should have heard by end June 07
Just before end June the Attorney General's legal department called my attorney and asked yet again for another 30days !!! as my case paperwork with them was very thin (whatever that means) Their attorney stated on the phone they would like to resolve, again whatever that is supposed to mean
Apparently Geoff Gorsky has not replied to his own attorney ! so their attorney has asked for all and any evidence we have on CSPA case.
Today 6th July 07 I drove from Orlando to Tampa to hand deliver my case file, but my attorney has stated they will not be allowed more extra time as we will be at 120 days wait at end of July 07
The CSPA is badly written and needs leglislative fix, Myself and another member have written our own draft amendment for legislation to protect all children from aging out. This has beed passed to Dave Weldon's office and in turn passed to his legislators, so will see what happens
I will update you all as if I win my case could well assist many others if they are advised their child has aged out. If you wish to support our efforts please join www.expatsvoice.org
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natrajs
09-11 04:37 PM
I understand your frustration. Since there is no spillover in the first quarter of new fiscal year, it was expected that PD would move back. How can you you expect 2006 PD for Oct when there is no spillover visa numbers.
Next year Jul-Sep 2009, PD should move to mid 2006 again.
My 2 cents.
Again on Next yr Jul 09-Sep 09 the DOS move the dates to Mid 2006 or Early 2007 and then the ineffiicient USCIS approve the cases with later PD's and leave the Older PD case
Until USCIS fix their system, it will be very hard , The Whole thing is unpredictable and much harder than winning a Power ball or mega million lotterry
Next year Jul-Sep 2009, PD should move to mid 2006 again.
My 2 cents.
Again on Next yr Jul 09-Sep 09 the DOS move the dates to Mid 2006 or Early 2007 and then the ineffiicient USCIS approve the cases with later PD's and leave the Older PD case
Until USCIS fix their system, it will be very hard , The Whole thing is unpredictable and much harder than winning a Power ball or mega million lotterry
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Green.Tech
06-17 08:17 PM
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tsnaresh
07-15 10:32 PM
Keep up the good work!!! I have just sent a check for $50 online.
Thanks
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Gravitation
07-20 10:40 PM
Thank you!! That's true exagerated values. With concurrent filing you can travel in and out of the country, you can work etc. Now we are moaning that the greencard is going to take forever! Wow! Be happy with this situation (file your i-140 & i-485) and stop these pessimistic views!
I think the calculations are actually conservative. If this thread depresses you, don't read it. But people need to be able to whatever analysis they can to see what's ahead!
You're happy; that's great! Enjoy! I don't think anybody on thread intends to deflate your mood. They're just analyzing. Chill.
I think the calculations are actually conservative. If this thread depresses you, don't read it. But people need to be able to whatever analysis they can to see what's ahead!
You're happy; that's great! Enjoy! I don't think anybody on thread intends to deflate your mood. They're just analyzing. Chill.
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knnmbd
04-26 12:39 PM
Guys ,
We have to stick to immigration reform..
Let's not get into the medicare/social security/income tax issues.
That would open a complete new front on which the immigration refrom opponents can attack you...
Our organization has to steer clear of the landmine issues like Medicare, Social Security reform. Those issues have sank many political careers in washington...These issues are tar pits..swamps...
We are threading a needle here...the thicker your thread gets..the less likely it would get through the needle hole..
We have to maintain focus and not get carried away.
Guys,
I agree with msp1976 on this. We need to focus on only the retrogression issue; everything else is great for time pass till the 27th when the SJC reconvenes.
We have to stick to immigration reform..
Let's not get into the medicare/social security/income tax issues.
That would open a complete new front on which the immigration refrom opponents can attack you...
Our organization has to steer clear of the landmine issues like Medicare, Social Security reform. Those issues have sank many political careers in washington...These issues are tar pits..swamps...
We are threading a needle here...the thicker your thread gets..the less likely it would get through the needle hole..
We have to maintain focus and not get carried away.
Guys,
I agree with msp1976 on this. We need to focus on only the retrogression issue; everything else is great for time pass till the 27th when the SJC reconvenes.
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h1techSlave
04-17 07:58 PM
After I have submitted the 485 receipt, my loan guy went to a meeting. I will hear back from him in a couple of days.
485 does mean some thing to them. But they seem to avoid that so that they can charge more interest rate.
Right now, there is huge demand for loans. So they are bringing in many artificial road blocks to increase interest rates.
H4+ I-485 pending still is a valid status. Now what rules they have regarding approving the loan to someone who is not working (because of H4 status) is something I am unaware of and not immigration related, I guess.
But if you are going to send them a copy of your I-485 application, that should mean SOMETHING in their eyes.
Do let us know how it goes. It will also be helpful to others in your situation. Good luck!
485 does mean some thing to them. But they seem to avoid that so that they can charge more interest rate.
Right now, there is huge demand for loans. So they are bringing in many artificial road blocks to increase interest rates.
H4+ I-485 pending still is a valid status. Now what rules they have regarding approving the loan to someone who is not working (because of H4 status) is something I am unaware of and not immigration related, I guess.
But if you are going to send them a copy of your I-485 application, that should mean SOMETHING in their eyes.
Do let us know how it goes. It will also be helpful to others in your situation. Good luck!
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ilikekilo
10-22 09:11 AM
I understand what you say but interpretation differs from IO to IO. It still goes to chances....
Hey, tx for the PM, I sent the email, do we need to send a letter too?>
Hey, tx for the PM, I sent the email, do we need to send a letter too?>
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Got to step it up with Sen Brown and Sen LeMieux, along with Sen Cornyn!
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mirage
04-02 11:42 AM
I don't know what to tell you guys.. I'm surprised to see how some people's thought process work.
I have no Idea what's wrong in requesting USCIS to release some data which would tell how many applications they received of which chargeability and in which EB categories’ This is the only information needed to stop predicting, everybody here can make almost exact estimate when they can expect their application Adjudicated. And also in the mean time they should provide us assurance that they will issue EADs and APs in less than 90 days. We are in a foreign country and we need to travel to our home countries, if we are stuck with 1 year approvals our file is always in process, how do you plan a trip ???
Death in the family is the only reason they recognize as urgency for travel.
We are Humans, we have family back in our home countries, marriage in the family or family visit is also urgent..
To ask this you don’t need citizen rights you are asking a public agency a service which they are supposed to provide and they are charging us to do that...
I have no Idea what's wrong in requesting USCIS to release some data which would tell how many applications they received of which chargeability and in which EB categories’ This is the only information needed to stop predicting, everybody here can make almost exact estimate when they can expect their application Adjudicated. And also in the mean time they should provide us assurance that they will issue EADs and APs in less than 90 days. We are in a foreign country and we need to travel to our home countries, if we are stuck with 1 year approvals our file is always in process, how do you plan a trip ???
Death in the family is the only reason they recognize as urgency for travel.
We are Humans, we have family back in our home countries, marriage in the family or family visit is also urgent..
To ask this you don’t need citizen rights you are asking a public agency a service which they are supposed to provide and they are charging us to do that...
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04-25 08:57 AM
We should take up this point when we talk/write to lawmakers and media. What does the core team think ?
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05-22 03:12 PM
This thread is mostly being bumped without contributions today :confused:
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meridiani.planum
12-13 11:41 PM
What are the chances for the PD moving to Mid 2007 by end of 2010 ? :(
are you referring to EB2-India? Without any legislative or administrative changes the chances of reaching 2007 next year are pretty much zero IMO.
If I were to play the prediction game, based on the stats that USCIS released and their own statements in this months VB, this is what I would guess [Q1 meaning Jan-Feb-March: calendar quarter, not USCIS quarter which runs from Sept]:
- Q1 2010 : EB2-I reaches Feb and or early March
>> Reasoning: its already at Jan-end and there are tons of cases in March. because PERM was about to start from April 2005, lots and lots of companies pushed and filed for labor in March. So Jan will be crossed and most likely Feb also. But March is a big hump to cross.
- Q2 2010 : EB2-I goes "unavailable". Probably in May, or in June
>> EB2-India should exhaust its annual quota for the quarter well within the cases from Jan/Feb/early-March. So now the VB would go unavailable.
- Q3 2010 : EB2-I goes to April/May/June-2005 in July, then Dec 2005 by Sept VB.
>> the big spillover of visa starts. Note that spillover has not yet happened. THere is speculation at this point, but traditionally whenever there is spillover (look at last 3 years VB) India and China have the same PD because thats how the visas can spill over equally to both of them. The state dept's own prediction is dates will reach December and thats likely. Note that in their prediction (in the VB) dates for India and China are identical as is expected when spillover takes place. This is the time when the big bump of cases at March should get levelled out.
- Q4 2010 : EB2-I goes to Oct 2005
>> 6 months past PERM the number of filings had picked up again, so based on the EB-I pending cases stats come October 2010 the date should roll back to October 2005. Spillover wont be in effect and India will be back to its annual 7% limit.
- Q1 2011 : EB2-I goes to Dec 2005
>> dates will creep along slowly/
- Q2 2011 : Dec-2005 or 'U'.
>> same story: India quickly exhausts its annual quota, and must now wait for spillover.
- Q3 2011 : EB2-I goes to March/June 2006
>> spillover happens, but unlike earlier there are lots and lots of cases from 2005-end to first half of 2006. So even with spillover the dates are unlikely to go past June 2006.
are you referring to EB2-India? Without any legislative or administrative changes the chances of reaching 2007 next year are pretty much zero IMO.
If I were to play the prediction game, based on the stats that USCIS released and their own statements in this months VB, this is what I would guess [Q1 meaning Jan-Feb-March: calendar quarter, not USCIS quarter which runs from Sept]:
- Q1 2010 : EB2-I reaches Feb and or early March
>> Reasoning: its already at Jan-end and there are tons of cases in March. because PERM was about to start from April 2005, lots and lots of companies pushed and filed for labor in March. So Jan will be crossed and most likely Feb also. But March is a big hump to cross.
- Q2 2010 : EB2-I goes "unavailable". Probably in May, or in June
>> EB2-India should exhaust its annual quota for the quarter well within the cases from Jan/Feb/early-March. So now the VB would go unavailable.
- Q3 2010 : EB2-I goes to April/May/June-2005 in July, then Dec 2005 by Sept VB.
>> the big spillover of visa starts. Note that spillover has not yet happened. THere is speculation at this point, but traditionally whenever there is spillover (look at last 3 years VB) India and China have the same PD because thats how the visas can spill over equally to both of them. The state dept's own prediction is dates will reach December and thats likely. Note that in their prediction (in the VB) dates for India and China are identical as is expected when spillover takes place. This is the time when the big bump of cases at March should get levelled out.
- Q4 2010 : EB2-I goes to Oct 2005
>> 6 months past PERM the number of filings had picked up again, so based on the EB-I pending cases stats come October 2010 the date should roll back to October 2005. Spillover wont be in effect and India will be back to its annual 7% limit.
- Q1 2011 : EB2-I goes to Dec 2005
>> dates will creep along slowly/
- Q2 2011 : Dec-2005 or 'U'.
>> same story: India quickly exhausts its annual quota, and must now wait for spillover.
- Q3 2011 : EB2-I goes to March/June 2006
>> spillover happens, but unlike earlier there are lots and lots of cases from 2005-end to first half of 2006. So even with spillover the dates are unlikely to go past June 2006.
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laksmi
01-07 03:46 PM
Dear Friends,
I have approved Advance parole but my name on Advance Parole wrongly printer, mistake of USCIS, what should I do and how long will it take to get it rectified, is any one had such issue please advice.
Many Thanks
I have approved Advance parole but my name on Advance Parole wrongly printer, mistake of USCIS, what should I do and how long will it take to get it rectified, is any one had such issue please advice.
Many Thanks
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